When Jen and I were seriously dating, one of the first questions was where do you hope to live someday? We had talked about putting down roots somewhere and being a part of a neighborhood and community and playing a part in our town. (That's what sappy romantics talk about, right?) It's kind of a big thing to think about. I remember thinking about where I would live when I was a kid, very superficially of course, and thought that Colorado was pretty great. Most of that impression, I'm sure, came from driving out west and being astounded by the mountain scenes, because I don't know that I had any other exposure to Colorado besides that.
I recognize that there are lots of people that don't have any reason to leave the town they grew up in. This week, out of sheer curiosity, I googled for one of my friends Larry from 4th grade. What do you know, he still lives at the same address I would bicycle to over 20 years ago when I wanted to go skip rocks with him. (With his parents, still, perhaps?) Then I also was trying to reach out to a local who gave me the wrong address, and I knocked on a door and asked if the guy knew Roger, and he said "I've lived on this street all my life, I know everyone here, and there is no Roger." Interesting, eh? ALL MY LIFE! Maybe the more interesting claim is "...I know everyone here...", but that's a blog of a different color.
That's very different that our admirable friend, Bridget, who I admire greatly as she epitomizes world traveler in my mind. I'm content to not be moving hither and thither, though I do like to see new scenes. Family trips are nice enough, for now.
So anyway, somehow, we decided that boundaries were good, but so is proximity. I was raised in a family where grandparents were 1.5 hours away at the closest, and a few days drive at the farthest. Jen was raised in a family with grandparents across town at closest, and a couple towns over at farthest. We had different degrees of involvement with our grandparents, but in both our cases, the connection was integral to our formative years. Jen's mother was largely single-parenting, so she'd spend a considerable amount of after-school time with her mother's parents. In my case, we'd travel to Columbia for all (most?) of the major holidays. So we designed our ideal case: Close enough to drive, but far enough that our parents would have to call first. :) Hehe. We also imposed a different-stake guideline, so our friends across the church region wouldn't be tempted to spread gossip to our folks.
Here's approximately what that map would look like. Purple is too close, red is the ideal zone.

Incidentally, I did interview with a couple of companies in Denver, but neither of them felt quite right. I had two friends from college accept jobs at my current place of employ, so was glad to make a trip to Boston to see how the fit was. I was well received, and they were desperate for a few more BYU alums ("We're never disappointed in the BYU guys...").
So now, where does that put us? We're about halfway between here (Jen's parents and maternal grandparents, 2 hrs north)
And there (Jen's paternal grandparents, 2 hrs south).
So that makes us a convenient stopping through spot!
In the end, it's nice to be "on the beaten path" to family, and nice to have a little separation too, as we like to develop our own family holiday traditions at home here.
It takes a little more effort to get to TN, but it can be accomplished in a half-day without too much headache (again, probably worth a blog post!).
I wouldn't be disappointed if we ended up being here for a while, and I'm quite cozy with the idea of being a New Englander. The fact is, I kind of feel settled down already, as I've checked out the town historical society DVDs from the library and know my way around town better than many of the other locals. Isn't that when you know you've Arrived?
While we have thought of moving elsewhere (and have even looked at homes for sale online), for now we are content to live 2 subdivisions away from my parents and a 10 minute drive down the road from Dan's parents. With young kids and our chaotic lives, it helps to have extra sets of hands quickly available. And - hey - we like them a lot!
ReplyDeleteIt is fascinating to hear people's perspectives on this.
ReplyDeleteWe have enjoyed the perks of living quite close --down the street & nearby cities to the H clan and 3 hours from the J parents--boundaries are good. I am DEFINITELY supportive of the 2 hour range..it's a good one and like you said, people have to call first :)
I am glad we lived in KY for as long as we did--I would not really be that familiar with my in-laws the way that I am now and would have missed out on forming relationships with people in the area as well (which is nice for when I visit, I can see friends too). I don't see us living in that area again...but maybe within a few hours drive?
I have never been a homesick person, but have enjoyed my distance. Having kids does make all of that *feel* a bit different. I'd like to be closer to grandparents for THEM.
For now, we are 13 hours from the KY family and 16 hours from the TN family. Not AWFUL, but not an easy trip either.
We are completely clueless as to where we will end up. We both have states that are "top" on our "preferred lists" but at this stage in Trevor's career (and! the ECONOMY!) we are just grateful for the opportunities that arise with wherever the job takes us. It's fun to explore new areas of the country!!
The most we've ever felt more "involved" in a community was in Wausau, WI. We were only there a year but Trevor was home every day around 3/4pm so we had all afternoon/evening to get to know the area, take part in community functions, and really BE there. It was really fun!
HERE, since T is gone most weeknights, he comes home on the weekend and is asking directions to get to places that are not hard to find...he isn't here enough to really get involved. It's an interesting difference to observe and live.
I am very happy that you guys are in such a COOL area of the country, that you have a great job, that you love your area, and that you get the perks of family within a couple of hours driving time!! Blessings!
I love the map! Jen once described the "close enough to drive, far enough to call first" principle and I have adopted it as my own for some far distant future use. I really, really like that philosophy.
ReplyDeleteAs it is, we are about 24 hours of plane travel away from either set of grandparents. At least it's equal, right??
We're 10 minutes from Eric's parents and just under 2 hours from mine. Our first house was an hour from each. I love being so close to Eric's parents, they are awesome babysitters and we love hanging out with them. I wish we were closer to my parents.
ReplyDeleteFrom the parental end of things...I am just so grateful for cell phones, email, blogs, and skype...along with semi-affordable sometimes plane trips. When we were at BYU over THIRTY YEARS AGO...we felt blessed to find round trip plane tickets for $200 back to TN. When our kids were there...we were still working on finding similar deals...and WE STILL ARE. We find them, most of the time. Or reasonably close to it. I am amazed by that. (However, 200x6=$1200 and that is still a chunk o change, to me. We certainly did not fly regularly as a family. What? 3x?)
ReplyDeleteI would say cell phones are the most critical connective element at this point...most of us can talk for free as we have either minutes or the same company. When I was at BYU, it cost me 25cents a minute to talk to my parents, and I was making something like $2.20 an hour at my job. So...in the big picture...all our ways of communicating are very very cheap now! ( When I had a boyfriend in Germany it cost $1.00 a minute I think to talk to him, and with phone cards talking to my foreign missionary kids 25 years later it was ...10cents or less? and now there is SKYPE and all kinds of crazy cheap ways to do things. Shara and I talk pretty much everyday about everyday things and most of the time to my boys and their family about once a week about weekly things. This is pretty nice, in the big picture. Of course I would love to see everyone more often ( especially the grandkids as they grow) , but I love that they my kids are all finding their own lives wherever they choose and they have jobs and are they are choosing happiness and they live in great places to visit and explore. I have thought tons about the different ways of living in a family. I know grandparents who are actually are raising their grandkids, grandparents who are practically raising their grandkids, and those that at least see them daily or weekly or monthly, because of proximity or situation or need. We didn't see my parent's monthly, but it wouldn't be too often that it got to two months before something came up that we were together. ( holidays, birthdays, or other random things...or just because) They were about 75 minutes away, which as Joe says...far enough to call, but we could go and come in a long evening if needed. We did that too. My city grands were an hour away and the farmer ones, 3 hours away. I don't think we went to the farm more than about 4x a year. But I felt close to both sets, in their own way. I am really glad Joe and Jen's family live in such a great location for tons of family and for all kinds of other opportunities. We hope to see our kids/grandkids at least once a year but we do know that might not always practically work out for many reasons ( one being we aren't retired yet!) but because of 'modern ( what a funny word!) communication', I don't feel disconnected from my kids who are so far away. It's really such a great thing, to have so much good available, so economical. The world village. Things like Jen posting monthly pictures, and good blogging, helps alot, too. Email is great. I am So grateful! I try not to focus too much on what I am missing because I know I am very blessed and lucky in so many ways.